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Hunter or farmer: is your B2B SaaS big enough to split the roles?
- Published: Jan 26, 2024
- Updated: Oct 20, 2026
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Every article about hunters and farmers asks which type you should hire. I think that is the wrong question for most B2B SaaS companies, because it assumes you are big enough to have both. One rep doing both jobs is standard below roughly $10M ARR, and under eight to ten sellers the coordination usually costs more than the specialisation returns. Splitting too early is the most common structural mistake early sales teams make, and it is expensive to reverse.
Every article about hunters and farmers asks the same question: which type should you hire?
I think it is the wrong question for most B2B SaaS companies, because it quietly assumes you are large enough to have both. Below a certain size you are not, and trying anyway gives you two half-busy people and a handoff where deals go to die.
The question worth asking is whether you are big enough to split at all.
A hunter brings in new business. Prospecting, first meetings, new logos.
A farmer grows what you already have. Onboarding, renewals, expansion, the relationship after the signature.
A full-cycle rep does both. They find the customer, close them, and keep them. One person, start to finish.
It is worth separating this from a different split you will also hear about, because people use the two interchangeably and they are not the same thing.
| Split | What it separates | The two sides work on |
| Hunter vs farmer | New business vs existing accounts | Different customers |
| SDR vs AE | Prospecting vs closing | The same new deal |
A B2B SaaS company can face both decisions independently. Both come down to the same thing: whether you have enough volume to keep a specialist busy.
Below roughly $10M ARR, usually yes. And this is the thing most founders get backwards: they treat one rep doing both as a stage to escape, when it is the correct structure for their size.
Full-cycle reps are standard in B2B SaaS below roughly $5M to $10M ARR. Not because those companies cannot afford specialists. Because specialising at that size usually makes things worse.
The reason is coordination. Every split creates a handoff, and a handoff is not free. It needs three things:
That machinery costs real time. Below roughly eight to ten sellers, it generally costs more than the specialisation returns.
Splitting roles before the volume supports it is the most common structural mistake early sales teams make. Not under-hiring. Splitting too soon.
Four tests. You want at least three of them to pass, not one.
The clearest single signal, and the one I would weight highest.
Above roughly $20,000 to $30,000 per contract, specialisation starts to pay, because the value of each deal covers two salaries and the time spent coordinating between them. Below that, the economics favour one person running the whole thing.
This is the same arithmetic that decides whether you sell product-led or sales-led, where the thresholds sit at roughly $5,000 and $25,000. Price point decides your structure more than preference does, and we set that out in the post on GTM motion.
Specialists need volume. A prospector with four deals a quarter to feed is not a specialist, they are an expensive helper.
Under eight to ten sellers, you are usually paying for coordination you do not get back. Above it, the handoff starts earning its cost.
If your reps still need you in the room before a deal moves forward, there is nothing to hand off.
Splitting roles before the process is documented means splitting something that only exists in somebody’s head. The handoff gets improvised every time, which is the same as not having one. We covered how to build the written version from your own won and lost deals in the sales process post.
“We should be more efficient” is not a reason. One of these two should be observably true:
If you cannot say which one is happening, you do not have the problem that splitting solves.
| Test | Ready when |
| Deal size | Above roughly $20–30K per contract |
| Team size | Eight or more sellers |
| Process | Written stage criteria somebody else can apply without you |
| Constraint | You can point at one, with evidence |
If fewer than three of those pass, one rep doing both jobs is still the right answer, and splitting will cost you a quarter.
I want to be specific here, because “it does not work” is not useful. It fails in two recognisable ways, and the second is worse.
A founder at around $500K ARR decides they are too busy to prospect, and hires an SDR.
For three to six months, the SDR books meetings the founder has to attend anyway, because the SDR cannot qualify against an ideal customer profile nobody has written down. Both sides get frustrated. The SDR leaves without producing meaningful revenue.
This one costs more, because it looks like progress while it is happening.
The second one is harder to spot because the damage lands a quarter after the decision, by which point nobody connects the two.
There is a specific trap on the farmer side, and it is the part of this I would most want you to take away.
Split hunters and farmers, give each their own target, and you have built two teams measured on different things:
That is how a B2B SaaS company ends up with record new business and flat revenue. The hunters hit their number by closing poor-fit accounts. The farmers inherit a book that churns.
Leads, sales and retention are one engine, and separating the people does not separate the problem. We set out what that looks like across the whole motion in the GTM strategy guide, and what the early warning signs look like in the churn signals post.
Give both sides one shared number.
Net revenue retention on accounts acquired in a given quarter works well, because it makes the hunter’s sourcing quality visible inside the farmer’s results. If the accounts a hunter signed in Q1 are leaking by Q3, that is the hunter’s problem too, not just the farmer’s.
You've re-run that lost deal in your head all week. We find where your deals actually die, and fix that stretch.
Less than I would like, and I would rather tell you that than present them as settled.
Sources disagree on when the first split should happen:
| Source | First split at |
| devcommx | $1M–$3M ARR |
| Allston Labs | $3M–$5M ARR |
A threefold spread on the lower bound.
That spread exists because ARR is the wrong trigger in the first place. A B2B SaaS company selling $80,000 contracts needs specialists earlier than one selling $6,000 contracts at identical revenue, because the value per deal is what pays for the second role.
Use deal size and the four tests above. Treat the ARR figures as rough context rather than a rule.
A hunter brings in new business: prospecting, first meetings, new logos. A farmer grows existing accounts through onboarding, renewals and expansion. A full-cycle rep does both. It is a different split from SDR versus AE, which separates prospecting from closing within the same new deal.
Usually not. One rep doing both jobs is standard in B2B SaaS below roughly $5M to $10M ARR, and companies with fewer than eight to ten sellers typically find the coordination costs more than the specialisation returns.
When at least three of four tests pass: deal size above roughly $20,000 to $30,000, eight or more sellers, a written sales process, and a constraint you can point at with evidence. With fewer than three, one rep doing both is still right.
A full-cycle rep handles the entire relationship: prospecting, closing, and keeping the account. It is the standard structure for B2B SaaS companies below roughly $10M ARR, not a compromise or an interim arrangement.
Yes. A B2B SaaS company selling $80,000 contracts needs specialists earlier than one selling $6,000 contracts at identical revenue, because the value per deal is what covers the cost of two roles and the coordination between them.
The most common failure is measuring each on a different number. Hunters get paid for new logos, farmers for retention, and nobody is accountable for whether the accounts being signed can be kept. That produces record new business alongside flat revenue.
Give both sides one shared number. Net revenue retention on accounts acquired in a given quarter works well, because it makes the hunter’s sourcing quality visible inside the farmer’s results rather than letting each team hit its own target independently.
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